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Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« on: May 31, 2012, 05:21:32 PM »
Vivid Aquariums thinks so...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgkPxWogmEg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgkPxWogmEg</a>


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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2012, 05:29:09 PM »
Awesome vid
55g DT.           Quite one 4000 main pump
10g sump.       Coralife superskimmer 65      
2x120watt LEDs
http://reefcollege.com/index.php/topic,130.0.html

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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 06:12:09 PM »
I agree with him to leds grow coral for me
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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 07:43:13 PM »
They do for me also, but there are skeptics out there, mostly the MH users from the 90's. Hopefully it will be proven with time. I do believe that the correct LED spectrum needs to be used as is with other forms of lighting.

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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 09:41:06 PM »
I agree Leds are the way to go. Caution must be used as well. don't to nuke your tank with the wrong light spectrum. The only thing I find difficult is I am used to being able to match lighting requirements to Watts this is different with leds.
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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 04:50:12 AM »
They wont grow coraline alge though will they? Think i read that somewhere. Thats my major gripe with them.
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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2012, 07:53:40 AM »
They wont grow coraline alge though will they? Think i read that somewhere. Thats my major gripe with them.

Not sure where you read that Beaux, some people have noticed that when changing from another spectrum to LED's there is a shift in coralline algae growth. Possibly very similar to the acclimation of coral to new light. I have healthy growing coralline algae in my tank which is lit by 100% LED's. I believe water chemistry, light spectrum, and current have more to do with coralline algae growth than the light source does. You do need to seed coralline algae into the tank if it is not present on your rocks already. Once present, the algae will spore and spread itself throughout the water column with the current you have created.

Another interesting thing about coralline is that, as a free floating spore, it needs a surface it can attach to otherwise it will bounce off the surface and stay free floating, eventually getting caught in filtration. I always have a build up of coralline on my pumps. They love the flow. 

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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2012, 08:33:19 AM »
My recipe for coralline growth:

Water Chemistry: Make sure you are keeping your water at NSW levels. Many believe it helps to have magnesium (Mg) a little higher, between 1300-1500 meq/L range, Potassium (K) should be at NSW range, 399 ppm (390-410 ppm). Salinity 35 ppt. Nutrients LOW, Phosphate (PO4) <0.03 ppm, Nitrate (NO3) <0.05 ppm.

Lighting: Most any lighting source will work as long as it is in the right spectrum. MH, T5, LED, Plasma, etc. need to be more blue spectrum. Warm light, <5000K grows green pest algae well. Cool or actinic light, 10,000K - 20,000K grows coralline algae, as it does corals. If you do not have enough blue spectrum in your overall light source you will find it difficult if not impossible to grow coralline.

Flow: Like stony corals, coralline algae needs considerable flow to bring nutrients to it, and waste from it. Your flow does not need to be extremely high, but good flow is what it likes. The flow also helps distribute spores from the coralline to other places in the tank, thus spreading it.

Seeding: I believe ReefDVM's did a video on coralline plates purchased from IPSF, look for it in the video gallery section. By placing the plates or any other material with coralline algae on it in a good flow area, in time, the coralline will grow and spore. Another method is to scrape existing coralline off a piece of rock or plate into the display tank. I find this method to be a less effective way of introducing coralline to a tank. You want the spores themselves, as they are small and can better attach themselves to a surface. This takes time as the coralline needs to mature and spore on it's own in cycles.

There is no rushing the process of coralline algae growth, it will happen in time if the above conditions are met and kept consistent. The more coralline you have in your tank, the more spores will be introduced into the water column on a continual basis. This can lead to epidemic proportions for some people who actually find coralline algae to be a pest organism that is difficult to remove from tank equipment.

Different colours of coralline exist in nature, from a dark purple to a light pink to green. Seeding different colours into the tank gives you a mosaic look to your rock, seeding only one colour gives you a monotone look to your rock. Myth (busted): Purple-Up, a product marketed by CaribSea intended to produce coralline algae in your tank is nothing more than a CaCO3 (ALK) with aragonite powder and Mg, it contains no coralline spores. Basically snake oil. 

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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 11:46:02 AM »
They wont grow coraline alge though will they? Think i read that somewhere. Thats my major gripe with them.

I run 100% led and everything is very purple from coraline
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Re: Can LED's Grow Coral ?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 07:16:36 AM »
When I switched to LEDs I lost all my Coraline on my glass. It is growing back however very slow. And mostly on the bottom of the tank. It still covers my rock and is growing back in the darker spots on my back glass. Oh by the way I did not acclimate properly. This could have caused it. I think it was the intensity difference beteween the old lighting and the LEDs. Cause I can no longer keep zoas they melt. All other corals were fine.

Before LEDs



No blues cant take a good pic with them on. Older pic Coraline is Now covering the bottom. also growing in dark spots on the back glass slowly
After LEDs


55g DT.           Quite one 4000 main pump
10g sump.       Coralife superskimmer 65      
2x120watt LEDs
http://reefcollege.com/index.php/topic,130.0.html

 

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